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Dec 28 2009, 08:56 PM
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![]() Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,398 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Oviedo, FL Member No.: 543 Autocross Club:Martin Sports Car Club, CFR SCCA |
Wow! The 5.0L is back! I want, I want!
...that's 25mpg highway of course before the boo birds chime in. This post has been edited by speaks: Dec 29 2009, 06:45 PM -------------------- Ryan Speaks
'05 Subaru STi '09 MINI Cooper S JCW '99 Miata 10AE '05 Labrador Retriever :-) |
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Dec 28 2009, 10:44 PM
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Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,610 Joined: 9-April 04 From: Orlando Member No.: 141 |
I feel bad for anyone who bought on '10 GT
412hp out of a 5.0L motor sounds pretty impressive at first. Until you realize BMW did it 10yrs ago Still, although I've never been much of a Ford fan I admit they did a really nice job with this motor. All aluminum, deep skirt block, cross bolted mains, 4 valves per cylinder, variable valve timing on the intake and exhaust cams, 7000rpm redline, etc. That's alot of sweet technology at Mustang level prices. The muscle car wars are well and truly on again. I found some videos of the new motor in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlR8hbpkHkw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvLEx10KgE Lastly, the best 5.0 video of all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr5toTGPIbE -------------------- Jason Stroud
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Dec 28 2009, 10:50 PM
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![]() Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,398 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Oviedo, FL Member No.: 543 Autocross Club:Martin Sports Car Club, CFR SCCA |
I feel bad for anyone who bought on '10 GT 412hp out of a 5.0L motor sounds pretty impressive at first. Until you realize BMW did it 10yrs ago Still, although I've never been much of a Ford fan I admit they did a really nice job with this motor. All aluminum, deep skirt block, cross bolted mains, 4 valves per cylinder, variable valve timing on the intake and exhaust cams, 7000rpm redline, etc. That's alot of sweet technology at Mustang level prices. The muscle car wars are well and truly on again. I found some videos of the new motor in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlR8hbpkHkw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvLEx10KgE Lastly, the best 5.0 video of all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr5toTGPIbE I know, I'd be PISSED OFF if I had bought a 2010!! Are those Brembo calipers part of the "track pack" I assume? -------------------- Ryan Speaks
'05 Subaru STi '09 MINI Cooper S JCW '99 Miata 10AE '05 Labrador Retriever :-) |
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Dec 28 2009, 11:09 PM
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Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,610 Joined: 9-April 04 From: Orlando Member No.: 141 |
I know, I'd be PISSED OFF if I had bought a 2010!! Are those Brembo calipers part of the "track pack" I assume? Here is the offical press release. They don't call it a "track pack" but I assume thats what it really is. http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=31645 A Brembo brake package upgrade will be available for serious enthusiasts. This package includes 14-inch vented front discs from the GT500 Mustang, unique 19-inch alloy wheels and summer performance tires. I hope the standard brakes are bigger than 11.5" though. The front rotors on my E46 are bigger and it has less than half the power. -------------------- Jason Stroud
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Dec 29 2009, 06:28 AM
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Knows what a chicago box is ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 1,500 Autocross Club:MSCC, SCCA |
Wow! The 5.0L is back! I want, I want! ...that's 25mph highway of course before the boo birds chime in. Boo bird alert. (What is a boo bird?) Why the excitement over a car that only goes 25 miles per hour? Thats not even a safe highway speed. |
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Dec 29 2009, 10:14 AM
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Knows what a chicago box is ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 402 Joined: 17-May 06 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,412 Autocross Club:MSCC, PCA, SCCA |
I feel bad for anyone who bought on '10 GT 412hp out of a 5.0L motor sounds pretty impressive at first. Until you realize BMW did it 10yrs ago I found some videos of the new motor in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlR8hbpkHkw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvLEx10KgE Lastly, the best 5.0 video of all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr5toTGPIbE Are you guys serious? Only 412 hp! Porsche gets 450 hp out of a 3.8L six. Non-turbo. Granted you have to spend $135K on a GT3 RS to get it, but at least you are getting some new technology. And the videos don't really help your case either. It seems its a ladies car if you notice the women driving the car in the first vid and Vanilla Ice as a spokes person for the 5.0? If you want a real Mustang you have to go to Roush or Shelby for a real pony car. They do go faster than 25 mph!!! -------------------- Bob B
'10 MSCC VP '91 CSP/DP Miata '04 Boxster S '09 Toyota Tundra I want to die while asleep like my Grandfather, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car! http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums/index...post&id=341 |
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Dec 29 2009, 02:27 PM
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Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,610 Joined: 9-April 04 From: Orlando Member No.: 141 |
Are you guys serious? Only 412 hp! Porsche gets 450 hp out of a 3.8L six. Non-turbo. Granted you have to sleep in it because you had to sell your house to buy it but at least you have the worlds fastest VW Beatle. Let me fix that for you -------------------- Jason Stroud
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Dec 29 2009, 03:18 PM
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Knows what a chicago box is ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 402 Joined: 17-May 06 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,412 Autocross Club:MSCC, PCA, SCCA |
The GT3 RS is one hot Beatle!
Yes, I would buy a Mustang over the Camaro, maybe even the Dodge. Actually if someone gave me one I would take it, but it would be a nice down payment for a Porsche. If I could only find a Porsche as fast as my Miata! -------------------- Bob B
'10 MSCC VP '91 CSP/DP Miata '04 Boxster S '09 Toyota Tundra I want to die while asleep like my Grandfather, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car! http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums/index...post&id=341 |
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Dec 29 2009, 04:18 PM
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Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,610 Joined: 9-April 04 From: Orlando Member No.: 141 |
Yeah, as a former F-body owner I'll probably get disowned for saying this but I'd buy a Mustang over a Camaro right now too. Nothing wrong with the Camaro as a street car but its gotten too bloated for my tastes. The Mustang is 200-300lbs lighter and now it has the power to match.
-------------------- Jason Stroud
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Dec 29 2009, 06:45 PM
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![]() Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,398 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Oviedo, FL Member No.: 543 Autocross Club:Martin Sports Car Club, CFR SCCA |
Boo bird alert. (What is a boo bird?) Why the excitement over a car that only goes 25 miles per hour? Thats not even a safe highway speed. MPG! Oops! Bob...you've got to be kidding me...no comment. -------------------- Ryan Speaks
'05 Subaru STi '09 MINI Cooper S JCW '99 Miata 10AE '05 Labrador Retriever :-) |
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Dec 29 2009, 06:48 PM
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Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,262 Joined: 30-March 04 From: Eustis(Central), FL Member No.: 78 Autocross Club:MSCC & SCCA |
Alright, STOP, collaborate & listen... LOL
The new Stang powerplant is very sweet--the car is a very nice overall package--bravo Ford! I like the Camaro more & more every time I see it--but Jason is right--it's too heavy. If the car weighed ~3500#, it would be a formidable pkg... Especially w/ the LPE TVS blower (same as the ZR1) pkg--the cars make ~620 rwhp w/ the setup -------------------- George B.
MSCC President http://www.martinsportscarclub.net * '06 Mitsu Evo IX SE BSP/SM Weapon * '06 Cayman S P-Car--mods to come... * '90 ZR-1 368CI SGC built 'Factory Black Motor' (11.0 @ 130.2 & 11.2 @132.4 w/ the 368--sprayed 120 shot)--NOT the greatest Auto-X tool... ![]() |
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Dec 30 2009, 09:23 AM
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Fast time of the Day ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,763 Joined: 3-March 04 From: Hurricane Alley, FL Member No.: 16 Autocross Club:SCCA Central Florida Region, MSCC |
It all really depends on why you are buying the car. Are you getting it to autocross? Are you getting it for "spirited driving around town" (especially on ramps
With all of that taken into consideration I'll take the Camaro Z28 over the Mustang or the bloated-looking Mopar offerings. I'll likely never own one, but that is not part of this conversation. And Ford REALLY, REALLY needs to do something about that speed limiter. -------------------- Bavarian Motor Works Three Hundred Thirty Five, Aye
This month I AM the Fastest Driver in my own house! Pit Patter Editor All Around Cool Guy ![]() |
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Dec 30 2009, 11:00 AM
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Probably faster than you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 919 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Westminster, MD Member No.: 288 Autocross Club:SCCA |
Don't listen to them Ryan. They just dont get it.
The problem with my old mustang was.....I sold it. I took it to the track a few times. With the "crappy" ford suspension, the car felt beautiful. I love every part of it. I can't watch these videos, as I am lustful. My favorite song is Queen's "Fat bottomed girls". |
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Dec 30 2009, 04:16 PM
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![]() Probably faster than you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 912 Joined: 24-December 04 From: Vero Beach, FL Member No.: 461 Autocross Club:SCCA CFR |
Don't listen to them Ryan. They just dont get it. The problem with my old mustang was.....I sold it. I took it to the track a few times. With the "crappy" ford suspension, the car felt beautiful. I love every part of it. I can't watch these videos, as I am lustful. My favorite song is Queen's "Fat bottomed girls". If only Ford had figured out a proper rear suspension by this time I think I could be tempted. The Camero is UGLY Peter -------------------- Peter Lier
Co-Founder Cannon Fodder Racing 2002 Porsche GT2 SCCA XP NASA TTU 1995 E36M3 SCCA FP NASA TTC CDTC Racing 2007 OLOA 1st place SSGT1 SB 16th overall E46M3 2008 OLOA 4th overall & 4th in class SSGT1 BB Porsche GT3 2009 OLOA 2nd overall and 2nd in class SSGT1 BB Porsche GT2[color="#9932CC"] |
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Dec 30 2009, 09:31 PM
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![]() Probably faster than you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 939 Joined: 7-July 05 From: West Bithlo, Florida (Orlando) Member No.: 863 Autocross Club:mscc/scca |
'Love those old fat ugly pigs, new fat ugly pigs run faster, get better MPG, more comfortale, corner better, faster, more performance potential and are alot fatter. Fat must be good. Or is it good must be FAT? Like to look, dont wanna bring one home.
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1994 Miata-White with black tires(#5 CSP 1/2 mine 1/2fast) 1969 Dodge Dart GTS 383 1970 Cuda Drop Top 440/4-speed 1978 Yamaha SR 500 (Thumper) and Beluga Dodge 2001 dually diesel |
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