geroge is runnning now he just call to ask about suspension adjust cause he said was lose in the rear so should see result with the hour

If you really believe you'll see results within an hour you haven't been watching the timing recently.  I say 3 hrs.

lol yah you are right    the real time update is great!! but at least we will find out from geroge

I'll race the SCCA, think I'll have my car running before they update the morning results....

Looks like if you view in a PDF they have half of SM2 updated.

Looks like Buetzer is winning C-Stock. Darrin in 3rd by a little over .4

Of the 1st runs looks like Reyenga is winning SM2

just got off the phone with geroge today didnt go well for him he span on his first run due to the car was lose in the rear, had a clean run on the second but it wasnt what he wanted, on the last run it felt good but somhow didnt gain much time so now he is sitting nine or ten about 1.5 second from the first place EVO jarrod and his codriver are sitting frist and second sias third

but there are still tomorrow GO GET THEM GEROGE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE!!

Aww man.  Sorry to hear George is that far back.  Getting a jacket will be tough that far back, but he can sitll pull a trophy out.

Whats up with the SS times.... no times but somewhat realistic results.

1.5 isn't the end of the world. It's hard to make up time on those courses.  I"m sure it's just the 1st day jitters.  You build up Topeka so much. It wasn't till I got rid of the butterflies that I started to put two days half decent together.  I'm sure George will be right up in the thick of things tomorrow.... how did travis do?

i think the east and west on the video might be mix up cuase looking at the course map that was post here it looks like east is west but i might be wrong and yah if the video is right the east course is not the awd friendly course specailly with that middle corner push that the evo has.

Where did you hear that?  I wonder who put up the money to see that done.

how much do they have to put down cause labor on those things is not that bad but is there a min money that you have to put down to open someones car??

Just heard from Jhue..... Thomason won SS with Braun a close 2nd. Apparently Salereno requested a rerun due to a worker distraction. His time on the run he "claimed' to be distracted would have won it. His rerun was slower.

Rumor has it the Hollis Civic was found to be illegal? Can anyone confirm or deny?

Rumor has it the Hollis Civic was found to be illegal? Can anyone confirm or deny?

Sportsmanship protest on STX Civic competitor for taking a radiator hose from an unknowing STS competitors Civic during STX competition, replacing it later (but not toping off the coolant) without telling STS owner, etc.  Banned from national events in 2009 at a minimum.

Yes something was done.

The person he "borrowed" the parts from protested him for Un-sportsmanlike Conduct.

His times are DSQ from Nationals 08 and the protest committee Banned/asked the BOD to ban him from all 09 National events including Solo Nationals.

34  66 Derek Kunkewitz      1989 Honda Civic Blk    Bridgeston  DSQ      DSQ      DSQ      No Time
        Knoxville, TN        My lovely wife          Eastern Te  DSQ      DSQ      DSQ 

Hadn't heard that. What I did hear was this:
... and ...
... and cross referencing, one might assume the only STX DSQ as the culprit (but that is just inferred from the currently available data) >>>
I would say it's a pretty safe bet that the Hollis STS civic might have been the STS competitor car in question. I heard talk that the Hollis car had been robbed, but last I heard the culprit had not been identified.

I also heard that impound may have required rather Draconian tear-down measures for the STS class, and Andy would have been affected by that as well.

FWIW, He's listed as the winner in the most recent results.
Heh, heh... I wonder if he'd topped off the coolant if he would have still been protested

For those of us not familiar with the first time what happened then? Just curious...

A couple more facts:

Ann was puking every 15 minutes for the first 8 hours, until Erik Strelnieks wrote her a script for some anxiety meds. She's still not right. I don't think she's faking it.

The shims are not sized quite right for the Honda seats. The hole is too big. As such, they walk around. Once a hangnail develops from the rubbing, it isn't long before the thing starts splaying out. At least, that is what it looks like. I suspect these are Miata shims, since shimming to spec height is standard Mazda procedure and ART is a Spec Miata shop. I will find out for sure when I visit on Monday.

My build receipt lists the following:
Head bolts
Gaskets
Polish crank shaft
Machine work: Surface head, hone block with torque plate and cut seats
CCing and measuring of two heads
Disassemble, clean and VAT
Blueprint and Assemble motor
Timing belt and Tensioner
Water Pump

Each has an individual price and that's it.

And finally, here's a copy of an e-mail I received from one of the partners in ART (the one I trust). He has given me permission to post it.

Andy,
This news bring me much pain and anguish, I know how important it was for you to be 100% legal on this motor. I was very clear with Karl and told him why it had to be. All the shop manual pages you provided were reviewed and were to be used as a guide for the build. If there is no provision in the manual for returning the valve spring height, or seat pressure after cutting seats and refacing valves, then the shims are wrong.
I will gladly speak publicly on your behalf and take any and all blame for the shims in the head. It came out of my shop and I assured you a legal motor. You did not do anything wrong nor did you ask for anything other than a legal motor.
Issues like this are why I have distanced myself from Karl, yet I feel responsible because it happened on my watch.

Sincerely
Mr Ed

I trust Ed implicitly. He has history with the local region in both autox and road race, and we go way back. He is meticulous and has the utmost integrity. Karl, though, is the typical road racer. I knew this and constantly badgered Karl to understand what exactly he was doing throughout the process and how. And I also badgered Ed to police Karl. But I wasn't at the shop 24/7, so I didn't see everything get done. And, other than the one splayed-out shim, you couldn't see the rest.

Other than the shims, all of the parts were normal OE Honda parts, as verified by Doug Gill (long-time Honda engine builder) and Tim Herron (currently a Honda Tech).

--Andy

I choked again, guys--can't seem to get it done when it really counts...

That being said, even if I was 100% on my game, my car really had nothing for the winning Evo & Sias' BMW--they're in another league. Hat's off to that level of prep.

Special thanks to my co-driver, Travis, for his help on making Nats possible for me. He did a good job @ his first Nats in a car that's still not familiar to him--Thanks Trikchop! 

Congrats to the trophying CFR guys! 

Hey Ian and Peter---

Your buddy Hollis was caught cheating.  Looks like this Leopard doesn't change his spots.
And yes someone did get in trouble for taking a part from Andy's car without asking----that guy got in trouble.
Karma is a bitch

1) I don't hate Hollis

2)  I can't stand his self-important event write-ups

3)  He doesn't do what he does to help the sport IMHO, so much as he does it to glorify himself

4) He's  unfriendly and self-important

5)  He had so much sand in his trunk this season I thought he was taking everyone on a Beachside vacation.

6)  Oh yeah, and he is the most famous cheater in SCCA

Other than that he's not so bad.

Love Lehman

Very sorry to hear that George...it must be an over-whelming experience up there...I can only imagine.  I was a bit intimidated by just the Florida State Champs!  :-)  The fact that YOUR car is under-prepped says a lot for the competition on a national level.

...does this mean we'll eventually see the EVO sprouting some weird aero pieces too? 

Thx Ryan, here are the 2 cars mine had NOTHING for, even if I drove like my 'normal' self 

Really? As far as I can tell all you're missing is a ginormous wing and more stickers! 

Ryan, the C5Zs are the car in ASP. The C6Zs had nothing for them--the super-tall gearing just kills them, even w/ the extra big-inch TQ.

Power was there, but electronic IX diff setup (on that Evo), suspension & chassis setup & development, ground effects, wheel/tire size due to fender flares, significantly lighter weight etc, etc etc...

Not planning on sprouting any wings anytime soon, Justin.
Ryan, the C5Zs are the car in ASP. The C6Zs had nothing for them--the super-tall gearing just kills them, even w/ the extra big-inch TQ.

I choked again, guys--can't seem to get it done when it really counts...